Mick Foley brings his comedic storytelling of wrestling career to Caroline’s
Posted: Jul 9th 2016 By: Rich Monetti
Mick Foley got his first full time wrestling job in 1988. But in 1999 he chose something much scarier…
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Comfortable in the tights as “Cactus Jack,†he soared the heights as WWE’s “Mankind.†Earning three belts, Foley joined wrestling lore in his epic battle against “the
Undertaker.†Literally taking flight off a caged structure, he rose to finish despite being knocked unconscious and completing the match with a tooth wedged in his nose.
Nonetheless, when finally succumbing to age, retirement gave him the chance to write a bestselling memoir, which resulted in a profession that could quite possible rival
that 16 foot dive off the “Cell from Hell†in 1998
Times Square(TS): What’s more scary, standing on that cage and knowing you’re going head first into the scorer’s table or doing standup?
Mick Foley(MF): Nothing could replicate getting up on that cage and seeing people below who appeared like ants. It was terrifying, but I used to get extremely nervous before the
shows. That’s not the case anymore. I feel pretty confident, and I’m very much at home.
TS: I’m not doing either. But let’s back track. How did these three varied careers come out of your childhood?
MF: I think it stems from being a young man who liked to get reactions. I found out late in my career that receiving laughter could be as rewarding as inducing winces.
TS: How did school impact your choices?
MF: I was a very good writer but an underachiever.
TS: What sports did you play?
MF: Baseball, basketball, football and then lacrosse and amateur wrestling.
TS: Did you go to college?
MF: I was a communications major.
TS: So how did you gravitate toward professional wrestling?
MF: I loved watching professional wrestling, and I was given the chance as a sophomore to set up rings in New York City. Eventually, I was invited to join a company for aspiring wrestlers in Pittsburgh. Oddly enough, I then started doing well in school.
TS: You’re finally becoming a student, what did your parents think of your choice?
MF: They just said I had to stay in school.
TS: Were you ok with that?
MF: I pointed out in my last book that wrestlers don’t necessarily do careful risk reward analysis or else they would never get involved. Luckily, I beat the odds, but even with that, I’m glad I had something to fall back on.
TS: Did it hurt?
MF: Yeah. You can tell by the way I prod around onstage.
TS: When did you start thinking about transitioning?
MF: WWE signed with Judith Regan and I was one of three wrestlers approached with a book deal.
TS: What happened with the ghostwriter?
MF: After reading several chapters, I thought I could do a better than this. So you can imagine trying to convince a publisher that this wrestler was going to write a book.
TS: I could…
MF: There was silence on the other end of the phone, and I said, how about I send what I’ve written and see if you like it.
TS: And?
MF: I turned in 76 handwritten pages and it turned out that I had a nice way of telling stories.
TS: You hand wrote 200,000 words in doing the book. Who did the typing?
MF: I don’t know, but I know a lot of people were trying to decipher my handwriting. Along the way, I became enamored with the semicolon to sort of prove I was a writer.
TS: I like the dash but I’ve read that the semicolon is unnecessary so I laugh when I see one.
MF: I’ve heard the same thing, and in my last book, I had my editor go back and take a bunch of them out. But then I put them back in. My wife is actually afraid I’m going to leave
her for a semicolon.
TS: Could you imagine wrestling fans in the 90’s envisioning Mankind debating the proper usage of the semicolon.
MF: (Laughing)
TS: How do you make the next transition to standup?
MF: The success of the first book opened the door to begin speaking at some pretty prestigious colleges starting in late 1999. I got about ten engagements a year until around
2007. I was then offered a chance to do improv in L.A. I used a couple of stories that worked from my college days and also threw in some barely formed ideas. It ended up
being a pretty good show, which was the worst possible thing because it left me under the impression that I didn’t have to work to be a success. I’ve figured out in the last four
years that is absolutely not true.
TS: What’s your material?
MF: I used to go out of my way to do as little wrestling material as I could. I wanted to prove I could talk about things outside of wrestling, and I can. But it’s almost like saying you can do the Catholic Mass in Latin. It’s impressive but not necessarily practical. So I ended up having this defining moment at a festival in Montreal. There were hundreds of comedians under the same roof who were funnier than me. The message was clear – semicolon – that if fans wanted to hear material outside of wrestling there were literally hundreds of better places to go. But if fans wanted to hear some unique stories about a unique industry from the perspective of a guy who traveled the world with his eyes and ears open for 28 years, I was a pretty good source.
TS: Is most of your audience wrestling fans?
MF: About 95%. As for the non fans, they usually tell me that they no idea what to expect, and it’s almost like they settled in for a night of agony. In reality, they enjoy it
more than they could have imagined.
TS: What do other comedians say about you?
MF: I had a terrifying experience one night. I couldn’t get a laugh. If I was in a pool, I would have asked for a life preserver. Judah Friedlander told me you have to have some
better material, but you still have a way of telling stories that keeps people interested. So I’ve learned through my mistakes and feedback like that.
TS: And you’ve made it to Caroline’s.
MF: It’s one of the biggest shows I’ve done. Hopefully, it could lead to the connection that helps to disregard your fear that I’ll embarrass myself and their image of me.
TS: Good Luck
MF: Thank you.
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