Bill Watts discusses his book, spiritualism, a good reason WCW destroyed itself, allegations of racism, Ric Flair & more
Posted: May 17th 2006 By: CMBurnham
Show: Wrestling Epicenter
Guest(s): "Cowboy" Bill Watts, Raven, & SoCal Val
Date: 5/16/06
Your Hosts: James Walsh, Ben Benya, & Brendon Brooks
Last Wednesday night, the boys from the Wrestling Epicenter had a chance to sit down with a man who has had more things said about him than he could ever say about himself. He's a legendary promoter and a legendary wrestler as well. And, if I dare say so, I actually enjoyed speaking with him and respect the man... He's "Cowboy" Bill Watts!
Also on this show is Raven's teleconference. You can hear that entire teleconference on the Weekend Warriors show on the site. In addition, SoCal Val stops by to chat about TNA and a lot more.
It's a jam packed show and might be the last one I, James Walsh, do with Ben Benya & Brendon Brooks as I have graduated college and am about to join the work force!
To hear this great interview, go to www.WrestlingEpicenter.com.
"COWBOY" BILL WATTS INTERVIEW -
According to Watts, the reason why people either completely love him or completely hate him is that he was passionate. He also says that it's better that people have an opinion of you than not.
A recent interviewee, "Leaping" Lanny Poffo, said that "Bill Watts is the halo to Ole Anderson's horns." Bill gets a chuckle out of that, then puts over Lanny as someone enjoyable to work with. Watts then goes into how he helped Randy Savage (Lanny's brother) while in Atlanta and how grateful Savage was, even when making big money in the WWF.
Watts could care less what people say behind his back or in their books. He then mentions his own book, where he admits making mistakes unlike other wrestler's books.
Bill laughs at Jake Roberts, who called him out in a book.
After threatening to stop the interview, fearful that the only questions were going to be about people who hated him, the conversation goes into how the wrestling business is anti-God and that there's nothing positive taught through the business anymore. The topic turns to the Mid-South days and how the fans and the wrestlers seemed to enjoy the product.
Watts claimed that he wanted to take himself off of Mid-South TV, unlike Vince, who seems to be on TV more and more.
Watts goes into how WCW paid $30,000 for a survey, the results of which said that the fans wanted something other than what Vince was offering at the time. WCW then did the opposite of what the survey, which was a financial failure.
The question of "Why ban top rope moves in WCW" leads Mr. Watts to explain that a heel needs to cheat to win and if they jump off the top rope to get a win. The point was to make the move mean something. Watts then explains that women nowadays are powerbombed through tables and walk away, and that the fans have been trained to that kind of wrestling.
Watts says that Ron Simmons, who called Bill a racist, was unable to cope with the pressure of being champion at the time. On the subject of being a racist, Bill goes into how he created more credible black wrestling stars, had the only black booker and had a black office manager in WCW. He claims that ignorance is the cause of the claims of racism.
To Bill, the "Death of Kayfabe" didn't help the business, also adding "If there's no mystery, where's the excitement?" He then goes into how he didn't see "Titanic" because he knew what the ending was going to be! He later puts over the movie "Shane" as a classic way to build an issue between a babyface and a heel.
Bill then tells a story about how he and Killer Kowalski had a match that was so intense, it fooled the boys!
Initially, Bill didn't want to write a book because it most of them are self-agrandizing. However, when Scott Williams, the co-writer, came in with the project, Bill said he wanted to include his spiritual
beliefs in the book.
Watts then goes into how he wishes he was a better parent to his children, including not screwing around on their mother and not drinking while driving.
After a touching and heartfelt explanation into his spiritual beliefs, we go into...
Word Associations -
Gordon Solie - "I loved him. Loved him. What a wonderful guy."
Bruno Sammartino - "Awesome. I have nothing but the highest respect for him."
Jim Ross - "Another guy I think the world of."
"Crippler" Ray Stevens - "I love the guy, I learned a lot from Ray Stevens."
Ric Flair - "I like Ric. I have no problem with Ric. Ric used to carry my bag when I was a big star and he was just getting in."
Scott Steiner: "Scott Steiner is, without a doubt, a great athlete and, I don't think, as great as a person. He and I did not get along."
Erik Watts: "My son, Erik, is a neat kid."
Verne Gagne: "Verne Gagne was a neat guy."
Vince McMahon, Jr.: "I think he's a very, very driven guy. I enjoyed
booking with him."
This interview ends with a plug for www.cowboybillwatts.com.
Supplemental Information
Spotlight in History
- 1999 The Casualties of War (Grunt & Shrapnel) def. The East-West Express (J. J. Mustang & Joey Steiner) for the OPW Oklahoma Tag Team Titles
- 1999 Original Renegade def. Tarantula for the OPW Oklahoma Light Heavyweight Title
- 2004 Dexter Hardaway became the NWA-OK X Division Champion
- 2004 Tejas def. Al Jackson for the NWA Texas Title
- 2015 Rick Russo & Largus RagnaBrok became the MSWA Mid-South Tag Team Champions
- 2025 Floyd Maystorm def. Brandon Warhawk for the WAH Hunger Dojo Title
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- 04-19 1987 Bubba Rogers def. One Man Gang for the UWF Heavyweight Title
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- 04-19 2008 The New Age Syndicate (Scott Sanders & Shawn Sanders) def. Nathan Sensation for the IZW Tag Team Titles
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- 04-19 2014 Aaron Anders def. Michael Wolf for the OWA Junior Heavyweight Title
- 04-19 2014 Jake O'Brien def. Brian Breaker for the OWA Heavyweight Title
- 04-19 2014 Tim Rockwell def. Jon Cross for the UWE Heavyweight Title
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- 04-20 2018 Jack Swagger def. MVP for the IWR Heavyweight Title
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- 04-21 1967 The Assassins (Assassin #1 & Assassin #2) became the TSW United States Tag Team Champions
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- 04-22 1968 The Spoilers (Spoiler #1 & Spoiler #2/Smasher Sloan) def. Fritz Von Erich & Billy Red Lyons for the WCCW American Tag Team Titles
- 04-22 1980 Terry Gordy def. Junkyard Dog for the MSW Louisiana Title
- 04-22 1985 The Great Kabuki became the WCCW Texas Brass Knuckles Champion
- 04-22 2006 Michael York def. Jon Davis for the TPW Heavyweight Title
- 04-22 2016 Brock Landers def. Mascara La Parka for the MSWA Mid-South Cruiserweight Title
- 04-22 2016 Mascara La Parka def. Brock Landers for the MSWA Mid-South Cruiserweight Title
- 04-22 2017 Double D def. Randy Price for the IZW Impact Division Title
- 04-22 2017 Nikki Knight def. Skylar Slice for the ComPro Ladies Title
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- 04-22 2018 Johnny Kove & Tristan Thorne became the ASP Oklahoma Tag Team Champions
- 04-22 2018 Damon Windsor def. Chandler Hopkins for the IWR Revolutionary Title
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- 04-22 2022 Duncan Kincaid became the RDW Iron Man Champion
- 04-22 2023 The Psychotic Messengers (Tank Bryson & Malachi) def. X-Rated (Kevin James Sanchez & Ozzy Hendrix) for the EPW Tag Team Titles
- 04-22 2023 Devion Black def. Adrian Vega for the EPW All-American Title
- 04-22 2023 Logan Knight def. Gemini [2nd] for the EPW Heavyweight Title
- 04-23 1966 Ramon Torres def. Lorenzo Parente for the TSW Missouri Junior Heavyweight Title
- 04-23 1973 Rip Tyler & Eddie Sullivan def. The Hollywood Blondes (Jerry Brown & Dale Valentine) for the TSW United States Tag Team Titles
- 04-23 1974 Thunder Cloud & White Cloud def. Bob Sweetan & Seigfried Stanke for the TSW United States Tag Team Titles
- 04-23 1978 Ray Candy & Steven Little Bear def. Ernie Ladd & The Assassin for the TSW United States Tag Team Titles
- 04-23 2004 Michael Barry became the NWA-OK Oklahoma Heavyweight Champion
- 04-23 2006 Tyler Bateman def. Seth Allen for the MSWA Mid-South Cruiserweight Title
- 04-23 2006 Michael Faith became the MSWA Oklahoma Champion
- 04-23 2016 Athena def. Erica for the IZW Queens Title
- 04-23 2022 The Blue Bolt def. Richie Adams for the WFC Prime Title
- 04-23 2022 Koko def. Reed for the WFC Hometown Heroes Title
- 04-23 2022 Rhett def. Hornsby for the WFC Drillsville Title
- 04-24 1999 The Casualties of War (Grunt & Shrapnel) def. The East-West Express (J. J. Mustang & Joey Steiner) for the OPW Oklahoma Tag Team Titles
- 04-24 1999 Original Renegade def. Tarantula for the OPW Oklahoma Light Heavyweight Title
- 04-24 2004 Dexter Hardaway became the NWA-OK X Division Champion
- 04-24 2004 Tejas def. Al Jackson for the NWA Texas Title
- 04-24 2015 Rick Russo & Largus RagnaBrok became the MSWA Mid-South Tag Team Champions
- 04-24 2025 Floyd Maystorm def. Brandon Warhawk for the WAH Hunger Dojo Title
- 04-25 1969 Alberto Torres & Ramon Torres def. Karl Von Stroheim & Treach Phillips for the TSW United States Tag Team Titles
- 04-25 1971 Dusty Rhodes def. Sputnik Monroe for the TSW Brass Knucks Title
- 04-25 2003 Ichiban [1st] became the TPW Heavyweight Champion
- 04-25 2003 The Heatseekers (Karl Davis & Rick Styles) became the TPW Tag Team Champions
- 04-25 2003 Outcast def. Tyler Bateman for the TPW Light Heavyweight Title
- 04-25 2008 Ky-Ote became the 3DW Heavyweight Champion
- 04-25 2008 Les Mayne became the 3DW Texoma Champion
- 04-25 2008 2AM (Javi Hernandez & Kunna Keyoh) became the 3DW Dual Kombat Champion
- 04-25 2008 Al Farat became the 3DW Violent Division Champion
- 04-25 2008 Frankie Dee became the 3DW Femme Fatale Champion
- 04-25 2008 Joshua Smith def. Al Farat for the 3DW Violent Division Title
- 04-25 2010 David Kyzer def. Outlaw for the SWCW Luchadore Title
- 04-25 2010 David Kyzer became the SWCW All-American Champion
- 04-25 2021 Brandon Barricade def. Red for the ASP All Time Title
- 04-25 2021 Maui Mike & Malik Mayfield became the ASP Tag Team Champions
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