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J.W.'s Dirty Dozen-Question Interview: J.W. Sits Down with the Legendary "Hacksaw" Butch Reed

J.W.'s Dirty Dozen-Question Interview: J.W. Sits Down with the Legendary "Hacksaw" Butch Reed

Posted: Jun 9th 2010 By: mikeiles

In the brightest moment of my short career, I recently had a chance to sit down with the legendary ?Hacksaw? Butch Reed. Butch Reed, for those that don?t know, is a world renowned professional wrestler. He started wrestling in 1978, and he quickly became a star. As a wrestler for Bill Watts? Mid-South wrestling, he won the Mid-South North American heavyweight title, the Mid-South television title, and the Mid-South world tag-team titles. He also had a brutal feud with WWE Hall of Famer, Junkyard Dog. He then went to WWE and became ?The Natural? Butch Reed with Slick as his manager. There he had some great matches with some of the top names in the sport, especially Ricky ?The Dragon? Steamboat. Finally, he went to WCW, where he formed the awesome tag-team of Doom, with Ron ?Farooq? Simmons, and with Teddy Long as their manager, were able to capture the WCW tag-team titles on two occasions. This was during a time when the WCW tag-team ranks had the Steiner Brothers, the Road Warriors, and several other tag teams. Reed also made quite an impact in Japan, when wrestling over there. While I had to narrow the questions down to just 12, the honor and privilege of interviewing this great superstar was a tremendous opportunity.

J.W. McGillicutty: Butch, thank you so very much for this opportunity. It is a privilege and an honor to be able to interview you. Now, before pro-wrestling, you had the opportunity to play professional football. What made you decide to make the change?

Butch Reed: I was hurt, and I was on injured reserve for the Chiefs, you know, Kansas City. I?m an athlete, so one day I went down to a bar and met Bob Giegel (former NWA president), and I met Ronnie Etchison, an old timer from back in the carnival days, and he trained me in Lord Littlebrook?s gym. When I went into the bar, he told me I should be a pro wrestler while we were drinking a beer, which is what I had in mind, anyway. I found pro wrestling?I never wrestled in high school because we didn?t have it. We had football, basketball, and baseball, but no wrestling.

JWM: You?ve wrestled a who?s-who list of people in the professional wrestling business. Who were some of your favorite people to work with?

BR: Junkyard Dog, Harley Race, Terry Funk, Dory Funk, Jr., Ric Flair, Bruiser Brody, John Studd?I wrestled against all them. [I also really liked working with] my partners Terry Taylor, Chris Colt, Tommy Gilbert, which was one of my favorite partners?Tony Atlas, Jacques Rougeau, Ron Simmons, my world tag-team partner. Tito Santana was another favorite of mine. Oh yeah, and there was my North American tag-team champion partner, Jim ?The Anvil? Neidhart.

JWM: Who were some of your least favorite people to work with?

BR: I try not to put them into a category like that, but Hulk Hogan, because he ran from me like a pup. The Ultimate Warrior, Jim Hellwig was another one. I only say that because those boys were sheltered from me?THEY WERE RUNNING FROM BUTCH REED. I wrestled Hogan one time in my professional career in West Palm Beach, FL. They kept Jim from me. I was one of the guys that had an attitude in this business, and I?m glad I did. Otherwise, I wouldn?t have made it in the business.

JWM: You had a memorable feud against the late, great Junkyard Dog. What was the toughest match that you two had against each other?

BR: Superdome! They were all tough, but the Superdome match, when I stole the North American Heavyweight title from him with a pair of brass knucks?I had to cheat him to beat him.

JWM: You once wrestled to a draw after one-hour for the NWA World Heavyweight title, against ?Nature Boy? Ric Flair. What were your thoughts going into that match? What are your thoughts about Flair?

BR: I just wanted to whip his ass. [laughs] Flair is a great champion. I beat him on a couple of occasions, but when I beat him, there was always a stipulation where I didn?t win the championship. I don?t blame that on Flair, I blame that on politics and racial reasons. I should have been the champion two times. It?s nothing against Ric, it?s against the politics of the NWA.

JWM: You had the opportunity to wrestle at the legendary Wrestlemania III. What was it like to work in such an electric-filled atmosphere?

BR: I wrestle Koko B. Ware?the bird man. It was an honor and a pleasure to be in front of one of the largest crowds ever. I was proud to be there with Aretha Franklin singing the National Anthem.

JWM: Being part of one of the most awesome (and one of my personal favorite) tag teams of all time, Doom, how is the relationship today between you, Teddy Long, and Ron Simmons?

BR: Just great! We?ve always got along great. We were always brothers with the same cause, and we were very successful. My relationship with Teddy and Ron is like an old homecoming and family reunion. Ron is my brother. Ted is my brother. We?re brothers, and we?ll always be that. Not only did we get famous, we got good. All I have to do is call them up, or they can call me up, and we?ll be there for each other.

JWM: Do you think Doom was used to their fullest potential?

BR: And beyond! We worked day and night?night and day. I didn?t get to see my family for two months because we worked so much. We were used and abused. Let Jim Herd and Bill Watts hear that ****! Cowboy Bill Watts?God bless him. They were over-killing the Doom team. We had a lack of R ?n R?rest and relaxation. They worked us like Georgia mules in a rock field. But, we?re die-hards, and we kept going for the sake of our families and the business.

JWM: It?s been said that you were slated to win the Intercontinental title during your time in WWE, however, it was given to the Honky Tonk Man, as it was said that you no-showed. Care to comment?

BR: It was a gift to Honky Tonk Man because I did no-show due to fatigue. I was late for a plane and missed my flight. There was no problem. I have no regrets about that. Honky Tonk was a good champion, but he wasn?t the caliber of champion of Butch Reed.

JWM: What are your thoughts about Ricky ?The Dragon? Steamboat?

BR: Ricky Steamboat?s a great individual. He?s a hell of a talent. He?s one of the most awesome contributions to this business. He?s a world-class athlete. He?s dedicated his life, like me and several others to this business. He?s a top pro. I give him all the compliments in the world for his contributions to me and this business?just a world-class athlete.

JWM: Who is the one person you would most like to wrestle (alive or dead) that you never got the chance to?

BR: Hulk Hogan! That was the world champion that I couldn?t ever catch.

JWM: What do you want the fans to remember the most about you and your career?

BR: My fans need to know that I was as loyal to them, good or bad, as they were to me. I salute them, and thank them. God bless them, and keep your cards and letters coming. I will respond to their cards and letters. Without them, Butch Reed wouldn?t be Butch Reed. That?s what I want them to know all over the world.

Butch Reed is one of the coolest guys I?ve ever had the pleasure of talking to, and I was amazed at how open and sharing he was about his time in the big time of professional wrestling. He?s the type of guy that will hold nothing back, and I appreciated the time he gave me for this interview. Thank you, ?Hacksaw? Butch Reed.

Honored and privileged,
John Wayne ?J.W.? McGillicutty

 

Tags: Butch Reed, Bill Watts, MSW, WWE, Junkyard Dog, WCW, NWA, Lord Littlebrook, Harley Race, Terry Funk, Dory Funk, Jr., Ric Flair, Bruiser Brody, Terry Taylor, Tommy Gilbert, Tony Atlas, Tito Santana, Jim Neidhart, Ultimate Warrior, Koko B. Ware, Honky Tonk

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Spotlight in History

  • 1969 Fritz Von Erich became the WCCW American Heavyweight Champion
  • 1985 King Parsons def. John Tatum for the WCCW Television Title
  • 2005 Mitch Carter def. Kenny Campbell for the SRPW X Division Title
  • 2006 J. T. LaMotta def. John O'Malley for the IZW Cruiserweight Title
  • 2017 MVP def. Damon Windsor for the IWR Heavyweight Title
  • 2017 Spirit Squad (Kenny [1st] & Mikey [1st]) def. Excellence Personified (Duke Swellington & Dustin Heritage) for the ComPro Tag Team Titles
  • 2022 Tego def. Mr. Wobble for the TexPro Texas Title
  • 2023 Wolf of War def. Martin Justice for the EPW International Title
  • 2023 Johnny Dynamite def. Johnny Lightning for the WFC Prime Title
  • 2023 Native Law (Sheriff Schultz & Nashoba) def. K. O. A. (Caine Carter & Devion Black) for the NCWO Tag Team Titles
  • 2023 Malik Mayfield def. Clayton Bloodstone for the NCWO Choctaw Nation Title
  • 2023 Dominik Whiteheart def. Luke Richmond for the NCWO United States Title

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  • 10-18 2024 The Strays (Barrett Brown & Izzy James) def. K. O. A. (Caine Carter & Devion Black) for the TexPro Tag Team Titles
  • 10-19 1976 Karl Kox & Ken Patera became the TSW United States Tag Team Champions
  • 10-19 2013 Tyson Jaymes def. Brock Landers for the SWCW All-American Title
  • 10-19 2013 The K. C. Wolves (Graham Bell & Luke Langley) def. Nasty Swag (Ace Archuleta & Robert Lee) for the UWE Tag Team Titles
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  • 10-20 1986 Crusher Yurkov def. Steve Simpson for the WCCW Television Title
  • 10-20 2001 The Texas Outlaws (Beau Dalton & Butch Dalton) def. The VIP Crew (Rocco Valentino & Vinnie Valentino) for the OPW Oklahoma Tag Team Titles
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  • 10-21 1969 Fritz Von Erich became the WCCW American Heavyweight Champion
  • 10-21 1985 King Parsons def. John Tatum for the WCCW Television Title
  • 10-21 2005 Mitch Carter def. Kenny Campbell for the SRPW X Division Title
  • 10-21 2006 J. T. LaMotta def. John O'Malley for the IZW Cruiserweight Title
  • 10-21 2017 MVP def. Damon Windsor for the IWR Heavyweight Title
  • 10-21 2017 Spirit Squad (Kenny [1st] & Mikey [1st]) def. Excellence Personified (Duke Swellington & Dustin Heritage) for the ComPro Tag Team Titles
  • 10-21 2022 Tego def. Mr. Wobble for the TexPro Texas Title
  • 10-21 2023 Wolf of War def. Martin Justice for the EPW International Title
  • 10-21 2023 Johnny Dynamite def. Johnny Lightning for the WFC Prime Title
  • 10-21 2023 Native Law (Sheriff Schultz & Nashoba) def. K. O. A. (Caine Carter & Devion Black) for the NCWO Tag Team Titles
  • 10-21 2023 Malik Mayfield def. Clayton Bloodstone for the NCWO Choctaw Nation Title
  • 10-21 2023 Dominik Whiteheart def. Luke Richmond for the NCWO United States Title
  • 10-22 1984 The Fantastics (Tommy Rogers & Bobby Fulton) def. The Long Riders (Bill Irwin & Scott Irwin) for the WCCW American Tag Team Titles
  • 10-22 2005 Big Van Vader def. Aaron Neil for the IZW Heavyweight Title
  • 10-22 2005 Carnage def. John O'Malley for the IZW Hardcore Title
  • 10-22 2005 Ryan Davidson became the MSWA Mid-South Cruiserweight Champion
  • 10-22 2005 The Lone Shining Star def. Tyler Bateman for the MSWA Tri-State Title
  • 10-22 2005 Michael Faith def. Outlaw for the MSWA Mid-South Heavyweight Title
  • 10-22 2005 The Real Impact Players (Aaron Neil & Se7en) def. The Red Dirt Outlaws (Devon Monroe & Kevin James) for the MSWA Mid-South Tag Team Titles
  • 10-22 2011 Fuel def. Jonathan Cross for the UWE Heavyweight Title
  • 10-22 2022 Justin Lee def. Koko for the WFC Hometown Heroes Title
  • 10-22 2022 Dutch Hagen def. Wesley Crane for the WFC Heavyweight Title
  • 10-22 2023 Tunnel Vision (Derek James & Logan Knight) became the BPW Oklahoma Tag Team Champions
  • 10-22 2023 Luke Richmond def. Brandon Groom for the BPW Oklahoma Title
  • 10-22 2023 Trench Blythe def. El Gallardo for the BPW Lion Heart Title
  • 10-22 2023 The Stage Dive Mafia (Rook Tyler & Axel Savage) def. Native Law (Sheriff Schultz & Nashoba) for the NCWO Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 1965 Lee Fields & Bobby Fields became the TSW Louisiana Tag Team Champions
  • 10-23 1967 Spoiler #1 & Gary Hart def. Brute Bernard & Mike Paidousis for the WCCW American Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 1968 Manuel Perez & Pepe Perez def. The Blue Demons (Blue Demon #1 & Blue Demon #2) for the TSW Louisiana Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 1988 Jerry Lawler def. Kerry Von Erich for the WCCW World Title
  • 10-23 2003 Payton Scott def. Chris Matthews for the ACW Heavyweight Title
  • 10-23 2005 Matt Garza & Mr. Brown def. Brandon Bishop & John Zorthos for the ACW Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 2005 Pretty Young Things (Cade Sydal & Mitch Carter) def. Matt Garza & Mr. Brown for the ACW Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 2011 Javi Hernandez became the UWF06 Heavyweight Champion
  • 10-23 2015 Vinny Pacheco def. Buster Cherry for the MSWA Oklahoma Title
  • 10-23 2015 The Creepsters (Buster Cherry & Mr. Barnes) became the MSWA Mid-South Tag Team Champions
  • 10-23 2021 Richie Adams def. Tommy Dean for the WFC Prime Title
  • 10-23 2021 Toxic Masculinity (Johnny Lightning & Johnny Dynamite) def. The Space Age Cowboys (Paul Puertorico & Jason Jones) for the WFC Tag Team Titles
  • 10-23 2021 Luke Langley def. Alex Royal for the WFC Heavyweight Title
  • 10-24 1983 Jimmy Garvin def. Chris Adams for the WCCW Television Title
  • 10-24 1998 The VIP Crew (Rocco Valentino & Vinnie Valentino) def. The Texas Outlaws (Dan Wilder & Bernard Funk) for the OPW Oklahoma Tag Team Titles
  • 10-24 2004 Se7en def. John O'Malley for the ACW Hardcore Title
  • 10-24 2009 Xavior became the SWCW Cruiserweight Champion
  • 10-24 2009 Dawn of Extreme (Ty Thunder & Crucifer) def. Texas, Inc. (Tim Rockwell & Bernard Funk) for the ComPro Tag Team Titles
  • 10-24 2009 The South Side Soul Assassins (Tyson Jaymes & 3rd Rail) def. The Good Ol' Boys (Bud Barnes & Moonshine) for the SWCW Tag Team Titles
  • 10-24 2009 The Good Ol' Boys (Bud Barnes & Moonshine) became the SWCW Tag Team Champions
  • 10-24 2009 Rated N (Crisstopher Crow & Shane Sanchez) def. The Good Ol' Boys (Bud Barnes & Moonshine) for the SWCW Tag Team Titles
  • 10-24 2020 Sam Stackhouse def. Alex Royal for the WFC Heavyweight Title
  • 10-24 2021 Ryan the Ripper def. Drake Gallows for the EPW Internet Television Title
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