JR's Blog: JR's WWE Payback Feedback..@MikePWInsider on Ross Report, KO=MVP, Camp WWE TV-MA, Happy B-Day @TheRock
Posted: May 3rd 2016 By: Jim Ross
Greetings to one and all. Busy day here in Norman, Oklahoma as I'm talking with PWInsider's Mike Johnson tonight for this weeks Ross Report Podcast that will drop Tuesday night at 9 pm ET on www.podcastone.com, @iTunes, and here on the home page of our site. Should be a good show as we dissect WWE Payback and look ahead at WWE's lay of the land along with the ROH PPV. TNA business issues and much more including New Japan Pro Wrestling. Subscribe for FREE to The Ross Report at iTunes and never miss a show plus it helps us. Thanks.
WWE Payback Feedback:
Overall an enjoyable wrestling show that highlighted several talents who are apparently all being given a fair shot at turning heads therefore enhancing their chances of "getting over." The show, from a lively Chicago All State Arena, was in ring, wrestling heavy which never hurts my feelings and by and large the matches delivered.
After Enzo Amore sustained a concussion after being apparently knocked out thanks to a stiff ring rope/cable and the show slowed to a halt early, the talents rebounded and seemingly put the show back on track. Luckily for Enzo, a talented and tough kid, that he was not seriously injured but I'm not saying that a concussion isn't serious because they obviously are. I'm a major fan of Enzo and Cass and expect great things from them in the future.
The IC Title and those seeking it from The Miz received almost an hour of TV time to start the show. That should indicate that WWE is committed on rejuvenating the IC Title as well as providing those in that mix adequate TV time.
Kevin Owens had a great night including a superb bout vs Sami Zayn and then an entertaining stint at the announce desk to set up more Attitude Era/Wild West shenanigans including Zayn, Cesaro and The Miz.
Owens vs Zayn was my match of the night although I really enjoyed AJ vs Reigns, too. Hard to argue that Kevin Owens @FightOwensFight wasn't the MVP of the show.
Cesaro is truly an impressive athlete and if the TV presentation was more athletically based rather than entertainment based, one hss to assume that Cesaro would be a much bigger and more viable star.
There is not one person on the WWE roster that Cesaro can 't have an impressive, main event level match with IMO.
The crowd took a break during the early going of Jericho vs Ambrose but the two talents worked hard to get the fans back into their match. Solid storytelling but isolating a body part along the way might have helped facilitate a more compelling story as the fans started getting numb, or so it seemed while watching from home, from the overwhelming volume of 'moves' on display in this match plus the two bouts that preceded Y2J vs Dean. I enjoyed the match nonetheless.
Kalisto beating Ryback was a surprise and I'd love to see the same commitment to building Kalisto and the United State Title on Raw, in particular, and on subsequent major events.
While I am looking forward to Shane McMahon and Stephanie McMahon being the CO-GM's of RAW and hopefully an eventual departure from the 20+ year run of antagonist authority figures in WWE on RAW, the segment felt a bit long for me. While fantasy booking this scenario, it's hard to not to picture a Shane vs HHH match at some point in time.
The Women's Title match was stellar until the finish which did not resonate with me but it's obvious that it was designed to keep the issue between Natty and Charlotte alive which does work for me. However, to dredge up the "Montreal Screwjob" yet again just did not flip the switch for me but I damn sure enjoyed the in ring work of the two women. They actually isolated a body part, the leg, and used it as an intrical and logical facet of their match.
Roman Reigns and AJ Styles did their part and more in closing the show in a solid and at times spectacular fashion. I felt that match, in hindsight, had a few more 'near falls' for my taste but it's better to miss on that side of the equation than for wrestlers to rarely attempt to win a match. Both men demonstrated an intense work ethic and even though and the extra involvement by Gallows, Anderson and the Usos might not have been everyone's favorite BBQ Sauce it allowed our more talents to get a bit of a rub fom the main event.
My wife and I watched Camp WWE and the Edge and Christian Show on the WWE Network Sunday night after Payback and enjoyed both broadcasts. The animated Camp WWE was a legit TM-MA program and was laugh out loud funny at times especially when art imitated life as in Natich, his open robe, and a amorous bear in a romantic interlude in a cave, in particular. Vince McMahon was tremendous in his voice acting role.
E&C are naturally entertaining together and their show is very well produced. I can still remember the day that I signed them both to matching contracts after we recruited the lads from the Indies in Ontario Canada. The WWE even paid off Edge's college loan to allow him to better focus on becoming a WWE main eventer of which he did quite famously as did his boyhood pal Christian.
Happy Birthday to the incomparable Dwayne Johnson aka @TheRock who was the bluest of blue chippers that we signed back in the day while I was EVP of WWE Talent Relations. It's so rewarding to see a guy who had approximately $7 Bucks to his name essentially 'lap the field' to become WWE's top star during a crucial time for the company and then go on to earn worldwide fame as a major, Hollywood star. Rock's value can be measured in many ways but when a white hot Steve Austin went down with a neck injury it was Rock who took the role of WWE's top star and the company continued to thrive because of Rock's talent and drive along with the talents of many of his teammates in the WWE locker room. Rock was handed nothing but he made it clear that he was an alpha male as he told me matter of factly from day one that "I'm going to be your top guy."
As usual, the Great One was spot on.
NJPW returns to AXSTV with extensive coverage of the 2015 G1 Tournament that Josh Barnett and I will broadcast. 10 Shows over 6 weeks on AXS. I saw a listing of the matches and they are are badass, let me tell you. For those that follow NJPW regularly I know that I'm preaching to the choir but there are so many more fans who have yet to engage the brand . There is no better in ring product to enjoy than the action that we get to bring you most Friday nights on Mark Cuban's AXSTV.
Thanks to all who have downloaded for FREE our Ross Report with Joe Koff, COO of Ring of Honor Wrestling, and thanks to ROH and to Joe for helping us deliver one helluva show.
Our @FiteTV app is distributing the ROH PPV this Sunday at Global Wars emanating from Chicago. If you have a smart device and WiFi then that's all that you need to watch this PPV Sunday night live as it happens.
Boomer Sooner!
J.R. @JRsBBQ
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- 1980 Hector Guerrero & Ron Sexton def. Ron McFarlane & Doug Somers for the TSW Tag Team Titles
- 2002 Jeffrey Parker def. Li'l Joe for the ACW Hardcore Title
- 2004 Luc Lapointe def. Prophet for the SRPW Boys and Girls Club Title
- 2004 Dirty Harry Sanchez def. Beau Dalton for the SRPW Hardcore Title
- 2004 Beau Dalton def. Dirty Harry Sanchez for the SRPW Hardcore Title
- 2005 Justin Lee & Michael Faith became the TPW Tag Team Champions
- 2011 Michael York & Ignition became the ComPro Tag Team Champions
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- 11-01 1960 Tony Jiminez & Jesse Jiminez became the TSW Louisiana Tag Team Champions
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- 11-01 2008 The New Age Syndicate (Scott Sanders & Shawn Matthews III) def. The New York Express (Jeff Knight & Thomas Knight) for the OECW Tag Team Titles
- 11-01 2013 Steven Sterling def. Bobby Starr for the ComPro Showtime Title
- 11-01 2014 Guy Atticus became the IZW Impact Division Champion
- 11-01 2014 Kevin James Sanchez def. Kareem Sadat for the SWCW Hardcore Title
- 11-01 2019 Brock Landers def. Tego for the ASP Inter-County Title
- 11-01 2020 Double D became the EPW Heavyweight Champion
- 11-01 2020 Drake Gallows became the EPW All-American Champion
- 11-01 2020 Revan became the EPW Internet Television Champion
- 11-01 2020 The Sidekicks (Kevin James Sanchez & Gemini [2nd]) became the EPW Tag Team Champions
- 11-01 2020 High Times (Father Padge & Dean Lambert) def. The Sidekicks (Kevin James Sanchez & Gemini [2nd]) for the EPW Tag Team Titles
- 11-01 2025 Iron Mountain (Duke Blanchard & Jack Davenport) def. The Trendsetters (Andre West & Nelly Rivers) for the WFC Tag Team Titles
- 11-02 1978 Ray Candy def. Ernie Ladd for the TSW Arkansas Title
- 11-02 2002 Terry Montana def. Shadow of Death for the OCW Oklahoma Hardcore Title
- 11-02 2003 Ty Magnus def. John O'Malley for the ACW Hardcore Title
- 11-02 2003 John O'Malley def. Ty Magnus for the ACW Hardcore Title
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- 11-03 2001 The VIP Crew (Rocco Valentino & Vinnie Valentino) def. The Texas Outlaws (Beau Dalton & Butch Dalton) for the OPW Oklahoma Tag Team Titles
- 11-03 2001 Splash Jackson def. Big Daddy Moore for the OPW Oklahoma Hardcore Title
- 11-03 2012 The Old School Suckas (Randy Price & Bryan Cruize) def. Big Business (Damon Windsor & Kevin Morgan) for the IZW Tag Team Titles
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- 11-04 1985 Rick Rude def. King Parsons for the WCCW American Heavyweight Title
- 11-04 1988 Kerry Von Erich def. Jerry Lawler for the WCCW World Title
- 11-04 2005 Beau Dalton & Bobby Dalton became the SRPW Tag Team Champions
- 11-05 1979 Jim Garvin & Herb Calvert def. Oki Shikina & Sugar Bear Harris for the TSW United States Tag Team Titles
- 11-05 1980 Hector Guerrero & Ron Sexton def. Ron McFarlane & Doug Somers for the TSW Tag Team Titles
- 11-05 2002 Jeffrey Parker def. Li'l Joe for the ACW Hardcore Title
- 11-05 2004 Luc Lapointe def. Prophet for the SRPW Boys and Girls Club Title
- 11-05 2004 Dirty Harry Sanchez def. Beau Dalton for the SRPW Hardcore Title
- 11-05 2004 Beau Dalton def. Dirty Harry Sanchez for the SRPW Hardcore Title
- 11-05 2005 Justin Lee & Michael Faith became the TPW Tag Team Champions
- 11-05 2011 Michael York & Ignition became the ComPro Tag Team Champions
- 11-05 2011 Brandon Walker def. Steven Sterling for the ComPro Showtime Title
- 11-05 2011 X-Rated (Kevin James Sanchez & David Kyzer) became the SWCW Tag Team Champions
- 11-05 2016 Kareem Sadat def. Dean Lambert for the EmpCW Independent Hardcore Title
- 11-06 1977 Dick Murdoch def. Jerry Oates for the TSW North American Title
- 11-06 1978 Jerry Stubbs became the TSW Mississippi Champion
- 11-06 1999 Joey Casanova became the OPW Oklahoma Light Heavyweight Champion
- 11-06 2010 Jermaine Johnson def. Aaron Neil for the IZW Heavyweight Title
- 11-06 2010 Awesome X (Kevin Morgan & Xavior) def. Aerial Assault (Ky-ote Joe & Eric Rose) for the IZW Tag Team Titles
- 11-06 2021 Koko became the WAH Living Hope Champion
- 11-06 2021 Tino Valentino became the NCWO Oklahoma Champion
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- 11-06 2021 Danni Bee became the NCWO Women's Champion
- 11-06 2021 Samedi def. Tommy Dean for the CPW Heavyweight Title
- 11-06 2021 Ky-Ote became the NCWO Choctaw Nation Champion
- 11-06 2021 Tino Valentino became the NCWO Heavyweight Champion
- 11-06 2021 Akbar Farat def. Tino Valentino for the NCWO Heavyweight Title
- 11-06 2022 Jason Jones def. Dimitri Alexandrov for the WFC Prime Title
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- 11-06 2022 Olivier Vegos def. Skylar Slice for the ASP Women's Title
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- 11-07 2009 Dustin Heritage def. Randy Price for the IZW Impact Division Title
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